Hanko Identification Help - New photographs Added



GoStrangely
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Hanko Identification Help - New photographs Added
This is the Hanko on my Edo period shakuhachi, Perry identified the first symbol as being "moon" but was unable to identify the second; can anyone help.

Thanks

Paul




Last edited by GoStrangely on 2011-04-16, 13:59; edited 1 time in total
Yuusui
Member
THe second character looks like "wind". It's a bit hard to tell with the glare going across the characters. The first one doesn't look like "moon" to me, but again the details are hard to see.
GoStrangely
Member
I'll try to take a clearer photograph tommorrow, thank you for your input.

Paul
Jeff Cairns
Professional Member
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Paul, the second kanji appears to be kaze (wind) and would probably be pronounced 'fu' depending on what the first kanji is. Unfortunately, the first kanji is unreadable in this photo. A better shot might clear things up.
GoStrangely
Member
I've managed to upload a couple of new photographs, hope these are clearer.





Thanks All

Paul
Yuusui
Member
That looks like "4 winds" to me. Could be pronounced "Shifu".
Jeff Cairns
Professional Member
The top kanji is still not so identifiable and it could be the kanji for four, however it could also be a sideways 'getsu' (moon).
Though this is quite uncommon with hankos, it does happen as in this example of a hanko by a maker named Shuugetsu.
Notice that the second kanji for 'getsu' (moon) is sideways.

As such, your hanko could read 'tsukifu', 'getsufu' or 'getsukaze', all meaning 'moon, wind'.
GoStrangely
Member
Thank you both for your help, I've always wanted to know what the hanko meant so it's great to be given some ideas.

Paul Very Happy
Koji Matsunobu
Moderator
I think the first character is "jo" or "nyo" (如). It probably goes "jofu."

I wonder if the maker was related to Sato Jofu, a student of Tanikita Muchiku. Perhaps, Sato Jofu didn't make shakuhachi.
GoStrangely
Member
Thank you.

Paul
Koji Matsunobu
Moderator
"GoStrangely""GoStrangely"
Thank you.

Paul


Jo (nyo, or "gotoku" in kunyomi) means "as is." Jofu literally means "like wind." For the Japanese, this almost suggests a way of being: Being as natural as wind, envisioning freely just as wind, surrendering oneself to nature, etc. The same goes for josui (如水, sui means water). This is a literal interpretation. It could be that the person inherited one character (jo or fu) from the teacher and added another character to it.
GoStrangely
Member
Thank you again, that's very interesting, I'll have to decide which interpretation to use.

Paul
JL Peilhon
Professional Member
Hi
i Have a good ji nashi 2.7 with this henko: the seller tell me it was Shugetsu...i don't now if it is exact. So anybody could identify this?
thanks

have a good week!

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Koji Matsunobu
Moderator
It's "shingetsu," not "shugetsu."
JL Peilhon
Professional Member
thanks a lot Koji!

cordually
Jean-luc peilhon
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